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cooked, were fixed. former ceo of g.e. >> jack welch. >> jack welch say they were fixed or something? >> he said definitely those guys from chicago they can't debate so they're cooking the books. >> bill: do you take that seriously? >> no. i do not take it seriously. i have to say jack welch gave us a good laugh because he he was serious. >> bill: welch believes these are bogus numbers? >> that's what he said. it's the kind of nonsense what's really book here. 50,000 they survey the establishment survey it's called services and government is about 150,000 there is a lot of volatility. people going around saying this hasn't happened in 30 years. >> bill: in your opinion though, there are more jobs being added pushed from full time into part time. they are younger, less educated. unskilled. lower paying. >> if you are working part time you come off the unemployment rolls, that goes into the unemployment rate. that's a legitimate thing to talk about this is important. 14.7% unemployment when you include the marginally attached to the workforce. that is precisely the same number as the p
from jack welch who used to run general election. a man who most people would argue knows a bit about how economic data is created. >> i wouldn't put anything past this administration. >> right before a big earnings release. it's all of a sudden hp would have solid 50 times or 100 times more computers or printers literally the day before would you have questioned that a bit. >> oh how convenient that the rate drops for the first time in 43 months, five weeks before the election. >> some people will be very cynical that a government number would come out this great on the eve of the election. >> well, i think it's pretty significant for the first time in nearly four years of this administration that we've gotten down to below 8%. >> large sections of the country don't believe data, not that it's considered gospel. >> cenk: that's an ms nbc at the end. they've never questioned numbers, and now they're saying it's rock solid. now it's not in their favor? me? i don't know about those numbers. that's the reality. that's unemployment numbers you see it going up. as it was going up, they nev
're trying to. >> cenk: oops. more on that when we come back. and later in the program, jack welch, what a clown. now they've got a new conspiracy theory. >> do you want to take that back? >> no, i don't want to take back one word in that tweet. vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> so keep on tweeting and maybe you'll have your voice be part of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ nah, he's probably got... [ dennis' voice ] allstate. they can bundle all your policies together. lot of paperwork. actually... [ dennis' voice ] an allstate agent can help do the switching and paperwork for you. well, it probably costs a lot. [ dennis' voice ] allstate can save you up to 30% more when you bundle. well, his dog's stupid. [ dennis' voice ] poodles are one of the world's smartest breeds. ♪ ♪ bundle and save with an alls
not trust that number. :lou: what you do not want to do is pull a jack welch. he decided that this was a conspiracy of the chicago political thugs that run the country. megyn: unbelievable jobs numbers, these chicago guys will do anything. by the way, we have jack welch to explain that later on. :lou: that's exactly what you don't want to do. these numbers over the course of time, you should always be skeptical of those numbers. we should always be skeptical of anything government does. economic reporting is an inexact art and not always in science be one can i just ask your question? :lou: yes. megyn: unemployment is still very high. how are the american people doing? :lou: a sophisticated number, if you will, buried within the labor of statistics is the broadest measure of unemployment that is in the workforce, discouraged workers. that remains where it was last month, 14.9%. it is a sign that we are absolutely stuck where we have been. and that is a sincere shame. that means 23 million people remain in great pain and they are suffering as a result of an economy that is
. doug we talked about a tweet from jack welch. did that ignite the controversy? >>reporter: the recovery surrounding friday's release of the unemployment numbers continues to swirl after jack welch, the respected former c.e.o. of g.e. treated "unbelievable jobs numbers. the chicago guys will do anything. can't debate? change numbers." facing criticism if the tweet he stuck by the criticism of the numbers. >> this number is made up of a whole mess of assumptions: who is participating, who is not working, who is trying for work, who has dropped out. it just begs the question. i think there ought to be a good discussion how this number is calculated. >>reporter: most analysts and the obama campaign are dismanage the criticisms as "without evidence." >> we wonder why institutions in this country are, the perception of institutions are failing, because people go on tv and make sufficient h stuff -- make stuff up. >> they had full charge of the first two years and the policies this president put into place actually made it worse, including the fact that obamacare is tale, if you ask employers,
the jobs number doesn't matter. is that in part this whole jack welch thing over the weekend around whether the numbers are real, does that matter in all of this? >> i think the jack welch stuff was crazy talk. and earlier in the year when you guys were down in washington on this, joe and i talked about it, there were between points that i would make. one, nobody messes or manipulates these numbers. but, took i think we exaggerate the importance of the numbers for this reason. the people who will vote on november the 6th know what they feel about the economy already. they're living it every day. so because there's a headline that says 7.8, it's a talking point, but they already know what their friends and neighbors are doing. >> when do we find out how romney is fun raising compared to that 180 million or whatever? >> i think if it was so par with obama's, we would have heard already. i think it's probably behind. >> you don't hear that that's unbecoming to have so much money to spend. just don't hear -- it's alway s the republicans. >> it's not decided by money. nice to have, but there is
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